""unlimited knowledge, power, presence and goodness" is incompatible with any mode or idea of existence I'm aware of. There are huge problems with positing an omni-whatever deity. Christianity really shoots itself in the foot with this…"
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Paul S. Jenkins replied to Todd Pitner's discussion ATHEISTS, might I have a Word with you?"
This definition is incoherent and can't therefore exist. So I personally would not expect to see any evidence for it. And I don't."
Jamie Hardges left a comment for Paul S. Jenkins"Hi.... I just want to share a short poem that I wrote with you.. Be encouraged.. ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJuilB4AoSU I have unfortunately, used up all of my friend requests.. but if you request me I believe I can accept.. I would love to…"
Michael replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"Hi Rhiggs,
I already made the point that a 'moral consensus' could shift to any position and still be valid if that was all morality was. But as both Paul and now you have pointed out, an immoral consensus such as killing your children…"
Michael replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"Say you understood both English and French, but were in a country that only understood English. You could choose to only speak French, but the result of that would be an inability to effectively communicate with those around you. In…"
Paul S. Jenkins replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"This is a strange use of the word objective. If something that's subjective to many individuals, and to each of those individuals it is subjectively different, does that make it, as a whole, objective?
Take language. Every individual's…"
Michael replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"Right, so we are back to the idea that morality is objective, in that it transcends the subjective conceptions of the individual. Individuals may choose to be divergent, but human nature is arranged in such a way that there will be consequences for…"
MissyP replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"Ok.... i should of typed a "to you" in my sentence.... how can it mean that to you.
Well obviously i would prefer the definition that suits my view lolOl Ok i will go back to reading along. Thnx"
Paul S. Jenkins replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"MissyP,
It just depends which definition you prefer."
Paul S. Jenkins replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"In theory, yes. But the consensus isn't going to shift to any conceivable position, because it isn't in the nature of humanity to do that. Humanity's consensus isn't going to shift much beyond what is beneficial for humanity.…"
MissyP replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"How can one word "moral" mean the system itself and the actions that are a consequense of that system??
Isn't morality a thing that is intrinsically linked to a community because of its comparitive nature?? How can a person…"
Michael replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"They could be subjective, in as far as the consequences of non-conformance are social, but you would then have to concede that morality boils down to personal preference tempered by consensus opinion, or a kind of 'might makes…"
Paul S. Jenkins replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"Not necessarily objective, more likely subjective in relation to the common experience of humanity. I see no need to postulate a source of moral values external to the human race."
Michael replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"So personal conduct has specific consequences, and it is common knowledge that one must act in a specific way in order to avoid a negative outcome, regardless of ones personal preference. So morality, or moral values are objective…"
Paul S. Jenkins replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"Michael, I think we need to make the distinction between defining "moral" as containing value judgements as to what is "right" or "wrong", and defining "moral" as a description of such judgements regardless of…"
Paul S. Jenkins replied to Paul S. Jenkins's discussion Resurrection ... of the "Is common sense a good enough basis for morality" thread in the group Unbelievable"Almost. Given that different social groups sometimes have different goals, I'd say that the consensus view of the whole of humanity needs to be considered."
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- At 0:55 on November 27, 2011, Jamie Hardges said…
Hi.... I just want to share a short poem that I wrote with you.. Be encouraged.. ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJuilB4AoSU I have unfortunately, used up all of my friend requests.. but if you request me I believe I can accept.. I would love to be friends wiith you so that we can encourage each other!!! ;) BE RICHLY BLESSED!!! WALK IN GODS EXCEEDING AND ABUNDANT LOVE!!! REST EASY IN HIS PEACE THAT SURPASSES ALL UNDERSTANDING.. TO HIM BE ALL THE GLORY!!
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