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‘Unbelievable?’ engages in fundamental questions on Christianity with the intention to openly discuss different opinions between Christians and non-believers.

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Discussion Forum

William Lane Craig on good career moves 18 Replies

Want to avoid damnation and receive salvation? I know you do. But how can I be saved? Have no fears. Christians are here to show you the way to salvation.  That's their job. There is no fee.  In a…Continue

Started by Steven Carr. Last reply by Dave 38 minutes ago.

Was Jesus a Liar, Lunatic or Lord? CS Lewis' apologetics - Ken Samples & James Croft 22 Replies

Any thoughts on the program? Happy to respond to questions for a while just like last time :)Continue

Tags: CS, Lewis, Croft, James, Samples

Started by James Croft. Last reply by Monty 2 hours ago.

The phrase "redefining marriage" 22 Replies

I imagine that some of you will think gay marriage should be a allowed, others will think gay marriage is a bad idea.But I doubt any of you thought "gay marriage, I don't understand, what could that…Continue

Started by Trevor. Last reply by Peter Chen yesterday.

What say ye, UK Christians? 22 Replies

Some very human bigotry and hatred are in control of American conservative politics these days.     On May 15th, the state of North Carolina amended its state constitution to exclude not only gay…Continue

Started by Charlie, Skepticism Examiner. Last reply by John M yesterday.

Best debate on Unbelievable so far! Well done to Peter Williams 199 Replies

Just finished listening to Peter D Williams wipe the floor with Peter Tatchell - Britain's secularist of the year (they really do go in for humility don't they?!).   It was a tour de force of reason,…Continue

Started by David Robertson. Last reply by Jonathan Albery on Friday.

No EVIDENCE for God's existence, eh? 95 Replies

After years of receiving inquiries to my website www.iLoveAtheists.com from asserting atheists declaring "there's no evidence for God's existence", I wanted…Continue

Tags: proof, evidence, disbelief, Apologetics, God

Started by Todd Pitner. Last reply by John M on Thursday.

Where are Hugh Ross and Ken Samples speaking while they are in the UK this week? Find out!

Here's a run down of the public…Continue

Started by Justin Brierley May 21.

Early start on the Young earth vs Old earth debate 380 Replies

Oki since you guys are talking about Young earth vs Old earth debate, I want to bring my contribution. These are some issues that I myself have been looking into, in relation to the subject. 1: The…Continue

Started by John M. Last reply by Imago Dei May 20.

Debate with the Religious Antagonist 30 Replies

At the risk of opening myself to a whole series of abuse I would like to know what both friends and foes thought of this debate - …Continue

Started by David Robertson. Last reply by Josh Wilmot May 19.

Miracles by Craig Keener 10 Replies

Hi there,I had the pleasure of joining Justin Brierley and Craig Keener on last week's Unbelievable? show. I quite enjoyed the experience. Happy to answer any questions you might have for…Continue

Started by Geoff Lillis. Last reply by Dale Glover May 14.

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Was Jesus a Calvinist? James White & David Instone-Brewer - Unbelievable? 19 May 2012 - 19 May 2012

Last week to book for Unbelievable? The Conference! http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons

David Instone-Brewer is a New Testament Scholar at Tyndale House, Cambridge. He returns to talk about his new book "The Jesus Scandals" and some of the reasons why he believes Jesus' theology doesn't conform to a Calvinist view of God's sovereignty.

Does the Parable of the Great Feast contradict the idea of an "elect", did Jesus in some sense believe in "luck", are disasters ordained by God?

James White of Alpha and Omega ministries is a Calvinist and responds to David's viewpoint.

For The Jesus Scandals http://amzn.to/HiFsHg

For David Instone-Brewer http://bit.ly/I44BJ0

For James White http://www.aomin.org/

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes

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Unbelievable? 1 Aug 2009 - Calvinism & predestination Debating doctrine - James White and Roger & Faith Forster debate predestination

Unbelievable? 12 June 2010 - The Jesus DiscoveryAdam Bradford and David Instone-Brewer debate Jesus' human identity.

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Podcast special - Gay Marriage Debate - David Robertson vs Adrian Trett - Unbelievable? 17 May 2012 - 17 May 2012

Book in for Unbelievable? The Conference Sat 26 May http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons

This podcast only recording is a debate held at Gunnersbury Baptist Church on the question "Should marriage be redefined to include same-sex unions?".

For redefining marriage, Adrian Trett of the Liberal Democrat LGBT group. Against redefining marriage, Revd David Robertson of the Solas Centre For Public Christianity.

To see the video of this debate http://www.gunnersburybaptistchurch.org/resources/viewvideo.php?event=43

For the next live debate at Gunnersbury Baptist Church on "Do we live on a young or old earth?" on Mon 28 May featuring Hugh Ross, Ken Samples, Andy McIntosh & Stephen Lloyd

http://www.gunnersburybaptistchurch.org/news/viewnews.php?id=64

Podcast special - William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins - Manchester debate - Unbelievable? 17 May 2012 - 17 May 2012

Book now for Unbelievable? The Conference Sat 26 May http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons

The full recording of the final debate of the UK Reasonable Faith Tour with William Lane Craig.

William Lane Craig is a Christian philosopher, Peter Atkins is an atheist scientist.  In this their second encounter, they debate arguments for and against the existence of God.

See the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ssq-S5M8wsY

All the videos from the Reasonable Faith Tour: http://www.premier.org.uk/craig

Antagonistic atheism: David Robertson vs Mike Lee - Unbelievable? 12 May 2012 - 12 May 2012

Book now! Unbelievable? The Conference 2012, Sat 26 May http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons

Mike Lee aka "The Religious Antagonist" is a US atheist who makes YouTube videos mocking Christianity.  His videos are popular but his approach earns him both praise and criticism from fellow atheists.

David Robertson is Pastor of St Peter's Free Church, Dundee and director of the Solas Centre for Public Christianity.  He often interacts with atheists online and has earned himself the title "the wee flea" for his provocative interactions on the Dawkins website.

David and Mike debate whether Mike's approach is a helpful one.  David accuses Mike of emotional atheism and an incoherent view of Christianity. Mike says mocking Christianity is the best way of policing its power in the US.

For The Religious Antagonist http://www.youtube.com/user/religiousantagonist

For David Robertson http://www.solas-cpc.org/

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes

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Unbelievable? 12 Sep 2009 - Richard Morgan - from Atheism to Faith - Christians Richard Morgan, David Robertson and Atheist Ed Turner

Unbelievable? 21 Mar 2009 "Challenging Atheist Myths" Part1  Christian David Robertson & Atheist Adrian Hayter

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Why is the Universe the way it is? Hugh Ross & Paul Davies - Unbelievable? 5 May 2012 - 05 May 2012

Book for Unbelievable?: the Conference 2012 http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons Sat 26 May

Hugh Ross is an astronomer and founder of Reasons To Believe, an apologetics organisation aiming to show why modern science confirms and supports the Christian worldview.

Paul Davies is a British astrophysicist and popular science author currently based at Arizona State University. An agnostic, much of his writing has focussed on the extraordinary "fine tuning" of the Universe that allows life to exist and why the universe's order and intelligibility defy a purely naturalistic explanation.

Hugh and Paul discuss whether the properties of our Universe may be the result of a creator God, competing hypotheses such as the multiverse, whether science can be used to test the Biblical worldview... and Hugh explains why he wants NASA to look for fossils on the moon.

For Hugh Ross http://www.reasons.org

For his book "Why The Universe Is The Way It Is" http://amzn.to/K6xg0C

For Paul Davies http://cosmos.asu.edu/

For his books see http://cosmos.asu.edu/publications/books.htm

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes

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Unbelievable? 17 Apr 2010 - Are we alone in the universe? Astrophysicist Paul Davies & Mathematician John Lennox

Unbelievable? 9 Oct 2010 - Hawking's God John Polkinghorne & Hugh Ross

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A Universe From Nothing? Lawrence Krauss & Rodney Holder - Unbelievable? 28 Apr 2012 - 28 April 2012

Book now for Unbelievable? The Conference 2012 http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons Sat 26 May

Lawrence Krauss is a Cosmologist at Arizona State University who describes himself as an "anti-theist".  His latest book "A Universe From Nothing" has received both acclaim and criticism for its attempt to answer the question "Why is there something rather than nothing?"

Debating the issue with Krauss is Rodney Holder, Course director at the Faraday Institute, Cambridge. An astrophysicist and priest by background.

In a lively exchange they debate whether Krauss' "nothing" is "nothing", fine tuning and multiverses, scientific knowledge, miracles and the usefulness of theology and philosophy.

For "A Universe From Nothing" http://amzn.to/IvYuNK

For Lawrence Krauss http://krauss.faculty.asu.edu/

For Rodney Holder http://www.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk/faraday/Staff.php

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes

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Unbelievable? 26 November 2011 - What created the Universe?Edgar Andrews vs Robert Stovold

Unbelievable? 25 Sep 2010 - Hawking, God & the Universe Sir Roger Penrose and Alister McGrath

Join the conversation at http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable and via Facebook and Twitter

 

The Gay Marriage Debate - Tatchell vs Williams Unbelievable? 21 Apr 2012 - 21 April 2012

Book now for Unbelievable? The Conference 2012 http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons

Peter Tatchell is a lifelong gay rights campaigner who has staged controversial protests campaigning for equal rights.  He believes that the proposed legislation to introduce same-sex marriage in the UK is long overdue.

Peter D Williams of Catholic Voices believes that putting gay marriage on an equal footing with heterosexual marriage is a dangerous and unnecessary step.

 For Peter Tatchell http://www.petertatchellfoundation.org/

For Peter D Williams article on gay marriage http://bit.ly/Je3HI0

For the Coalition For Marriage http://c4m.org.uk/

For the Coalition For Equal Marriage http://www.c4em.org.uk/

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes

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Unbelievable? 6 Nov 2010 - Ex-Gay and Gay-Affirming approaches to homosexuality

Unbelievable? 5 Jun 2010 - Homosexuality and the Church

Join the conversation at http://www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable and via Facebook and Twitter

What's wrong with the world? Unbelievable? 14 Apr 2012 - 13 April 2012

Book now for Unbelievable?: The Conference 2012 http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons

On the show this week:

Andrew Wilson is an apologist, author and elder at Kings Church Eastbourne. His new book 'If God, Then What?' presents arguments for the existence of God and how the Christian Gospel addresses the issues of suffering and death in the world.

Geoff Lillis, a humanist atheist from Ireland returns to chat with Andrew.

From different perspectives they discuss whether the world is getting better or worse, what the diagnosis is and what the cure might be.

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes

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Unbelievable? 25 Aug 2007 - God Delusion debate Deluded by Dawkins? Andrew Wilson & Gordon Livesey

Unbelievable? 3 Oct 2009 - What picture of God does the Bible paint? Christian Andrew Wilson & Atheist Norman Bacrac debate

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The Easter Scandal - David Instone-Brewer & Bob Price - Unbelievable? 7 Apr 2012 - 07 April 2012

Book now for Unbelievable? The Conference 2012 http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons Sat 26 May

On the show this week:

The Jesus Scandals is the new book by New Testament Scholar David Instone-Brewer which claims that various aspects of Jesus life and ministry were a scandal to early Christians, and would have never been included in the Gospels if they hadn't really happened.  Today they give us evidence of its reliability.

Bob Price is a sceptical Bible Scholar from the US who maintains that it is unlikely that Jesus even existed.

Do the "scandals" of Christ's shameful execution, unusual resurrection and the women witnesses support David's case? And what about his claim to have discovered the original arrest warrant for Jesus?

For The Jesus Scandals http://amzn.to/HiFsHg

For David Instone-Brewer http://bit.ly/I44BJ0

For Bob Price http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes

You may also enjoy:

Unbelievable? 19 June 2010 - Does the Bible condone slavery? Bob Price & David Instone-Brewer.

Unbelievable? 16th April 2011 - Biblical evidence for the Resurrection Bart Ehrman & Mike Licona

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Was Jesus Liar, Lunatic or Lord? CS Lewis' apologetics - Unbelievable? 31 Mar 2012 - 30 March 2012

Book for Unbelievable? The Conference 2012 http://www.premier.org.uk/reasons

On the show this week:

April is CS Lewis month on Premier Christian Radio.  In this edition of the show we examine two of CS Lewis' apologetic arguments for Christianity.

The Trilemma - "Either Jesus is a lunatic, a liar or Lord. He cannot simply be a great moral teacher, he has not left that option open to us".  Does Lewis' argument still stand 60 years on?

Kenneth R Samples is senior research scholar for Reasons To Believe and a lifelong fan of CS Lewis. He defends Lewis' apologetics against atheist James Croft who says that it fails to pass muster.

They also discuss Lewis' "Argument for God from Reason" - that our belief in the trustworthiness of our reasoning faculties is only possible if God exists.

To enter the draw for 3 CS Lewis books email unbelievable@premier.org.uk

For Kenneth Samples http://www.reasons.org/about/who-we-are/kenneth-samples

For James Croft http://www.templeofthefuture.net/about

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit http://www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the MP3 podcast http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or Via Itunes

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Unbelievable? 18 February 2012 - Is apologetics a waste of time?

Unbelievable? 30 Oct 2010 - The Apologetics of CS Lewis Michael Ward debates with Dan Barker.

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Comment by Ofonmbuk Ufot on December 3, 2011 at 15:55

Evidence For God? There is enough evidence around us for God if we open our eyes to see. We wake up breath without running out. All around the world lives are being changed. God has made those things possible. Being able to love and forgive those who have done you evil can only be God's work in a person's heart.

Those who seek Him find Him. All the planets being discovered? Science did not put them there. God has been speaking for generations, we come and go and those sayings stay the same.

Please go to places where there is no medical science, find out how many live healthy lives, who have faith. Researches should be on individuals whom God has touched. It will reveal a lot.

Comment by Justin Brierley on November 29, 2011 at 7:35

Here is the second video to be released from the Reasonable Faith Tour - includes a contribution from Revd Dr Rodney Holder of the Faraday Institute in Cambridge

There are some interesting interactions with atheists for the Q&A from 47 mins in.

Comment by Justin Brierley on November 10, 2011 at 14:03
Comment by Justin Brierley on November 10, 2011 at 14:00

Comment by John D. Miller on November 8, 2011 at 18:30

Has Unbelievable ever discussed Freemasonry?

John D. Miller

Comment by Justin Brierley on September 15, 2011 at 7:50
Comment by Justin Brierley on July 1, 2011 at 7:48
Comment by Justin Brierley on July 1, 2011 at 7:41

The 2nd in our Praxman "News night" style sketch series

 

Comment by Ephrem Hagos on June 22, 2011 at 13:19

What is truely unbelievable, a.k.a., "the first and the last", i.e., the beginning of personal knowledge of God, is Christ's characteristically Spirit-active, perfect and diacritical death on the cross according to the Scriptures! 

This is something one can neither accept nor reject outright except by experience.

AMEN.

 

Comment by Pieter van Leeuwen on June 22, 2011 at 12:59

I just nearly finished listening to this debate. Although the discussion is very intersting, I find it irritating that Ehrman keeps shifting terminology. For example, at one point Mike L. argued that most NT scholars agree on fact X, then Bart E. responded saying that most scholars are Christians and therefore of course they support these facts as they already believe in the resurrection. Then Mike L. gave the example of John D. Crossan and Elaine Pagels was mentioned as counter examples. Then Bart E. accused him for not considering them christians. This is totally irrelevant! The only thing that is relevant is whether they believe in the resurrection or not. Only if they do are they biased. They may call themselves Christians, but it is clear they do not believe in the bodily resurrection. I think he is a master in red herrings and I feel sorry for Mike that he ended up debating about who is or is not a Christian. This is really distracting from the debate, because some really good points were brought up and I wanted Bart E. to really test Mike L. on his claims and not distract from the topic. Later Mike L. asked Bart E. that if it was indisputable that Jesus rose from the dead would he call this a miracle. Then Bart E. asked him if he also raised up to heaven. Again, it is totally irrelevant to the question. Perhaps he wanted to avoid having to confront his presuppositional bias against miracles as he has been challenged by this in the passed.

 

Anyway, I really love these debates and hope many people will listen to them.

 

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