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‘Unbelievable?’ engages in fundamental questions on Christianity with the intention to openly discuss different opinions between Christians and non-believers.

Website: http://www.premierradio.org.uk/shows/saturday/unbelievable.aspx
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Visit the show page at www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable to listen to shows, features and get the podcast

Book your ticket to the "Unbelievable?" screening followed by debate of "Expelled" the Intelligent Design movie at Imperial College London, Saturday 27th February 2010. More details and booking info at www.premier.org.uk/expelled


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Unbelievable? 6 Feb 2010 - Do we need God to do Science? Steve Fuller & Thomas Dixon - 05 February 2010

As we look forward to the screening and debate around the film Expelled at Imperial College London on Sat 27th Feb (See www.premier.org.uk/expelled for info on extra screening & debate) two of the panellists join Justin to debate Intelligent Design.

Steve Fuller is Professor of Sociology at Warwick University.  He features as a pro ID advocate in the film "Expelled" and was an expert witness in the USA "Dover Trial" of 2005 when ID was judged non-scientific.

Thomas Dixon is Senior Lecturer in History at Queen Mary University of London.  He is critical of the film and the ID movement.

For Steve Fuller see http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~sysdt/Index.html

For his book "Dissent over Descent" click here

For his forthcoming book "Science: the art of living" Click here

For Thomas Dixon see http://www.history.qmul.ac.uk/staff/dixont.html

For his book "Science and Religion: a very short introduction" Click Here

Hear more faith debate at www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast or via Itunes

If you enjoyed this show you may also enjoy:

Unbelievable? 16 Jan 2010 - "Expelled" the Movie - Intelligent Design theorist Stephen Meyer vs. Atheist scientist Peter Atkins debate Intelligent Design

Unbelievable? 27 Jun 2009 - "Is Christian faith at odds with science?" Atheist biologist PZ Myers & Christian biologist Denis Alexander

For tickets to the newly added screening and debate on Sat 27th Feb at 6.30pm visit www.premier.org.uk/expelled

Unbelievable? 30 Jan 2010 - Where was God in Haiti? - 30 January 2010

Hundreds of thousands died in the Haiti earthquake of Jan 2010.  Many more are still suffering.  So where was God?

Can we believe in an all loving, all powerful God in the face of such suffering and destruction?

Roger Forster of The Ichthus Christian Fellowship argues that God suffers with those affected.  Atheist Gordon Livesey believes that if God existed he would act to intervene.  Nick Peters, who himself suffers from disability, argues that the existence of evil does not preclude a loving, almighty God.

For Roger Forster's book "Suffering and the Love of God" visit http://www.ichthus.org.uk/Shop/

To support the DEC appeal for Haiti visit www.dec.org.uk

You can hear more Christian/non-Christian discussion at www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast or via Itunes.

If you want to hear similar programmes:

Unbelievable? 10 Jan 2009 Bart Ehrman & Richard Swinburne - "God's Problem: does the Bible fail to answer the problem of suffering?"

Unbelievable? 19 Apr 2008 problems with God - an Atheist and Christian philosopher debate

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Unbelievable? 23 Jan 2010 - Abortion - Pro-choice Evan Harris MP vs Pro-life Sarah Macken - 23 January 2010

A re-broadcast of a compelling debate with listener input on the issue of abortion.

When does human life begin?  Whose rights come first - the mother or foetus?  Is disability grounds for abortion?  Should the time limit for abortion in the UK be lowered?  

This debate between Liberal Democrat Shadow Science minister Evan Harris MP and Pro-life advocate Sarah Macken is joined by listeners and emails as the questions get discussed from both perspectives.

For more Christian/non-Christian discussion visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast or via itunes

If you enjoyed this programme you may want to listen to:

Unbelievable? 19 Jan 2008 Abortion - pro-life vs. pro-choice.

Unbelievable? 12 Jan 2008 Human Fertilisation & Embryology - are we playing God?

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Unbelievable? 16 Jan 2010 - "Expelled" The Movie - Stephen C Meyer vs. Peter Atkins - 16 January 2010

The documentary film "Expelled" is presented by US Actor Ben Stein and makes the case that scientists who question Darwinian orthodoxy and support Intelligent Design are being "expelled" from academia.

As the UK edition of the DVD is released we ask "Is freedom of thought at stake or is Intelligent Design out of bounds when it comes to biological science?"

Stephen C Meyer is co founder of the Discovery Institute in the USA and a major proponent of Intelligent Design.  Peter Atkins is Professor of Chemistry at Oxford University and an outspoken atheist.

They both feature in "Expelled" and join Justin to debate the pros and cons of Intelligent Design theory.

Mark Haville who is bringing the film to the UK also joins the discussion.

You can order Expelled the DVD (UK edition) at Amazon Play.com and HMV (click for direct links) or via http://www.christianvideos.co.uk/

For details & booking for the Unbelievable? Screening of "Expelled" and debate at Imperial College London in February visit www.premier.org.uk/expelled

For Stephen C Meyer's book visit http://www.signatureinthecell.com/

For info on Peter Atkins visit http://www.secularism.org.uk/prof.peteratkins.html

For more Christian/non Christian debate visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast at http://ondemand.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/AudioFeed.aspx or via Itunes

If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy

Unbelievable? 2 Jan 2010 - Is there design in biology? Intelligent Design proponent William Dembski vs. Biology Professor Lewis Wolpert

Unbelievable? 21 Feb 2009 - DNA & the origin of life - the cosmic fingerprints of God? Perry Marshall and Peter Hearty debate.

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Unbelievable? 9 Jan 2010 - 09 January 2010

William (Bill) Dembski is an American mathematician, theologian and professor of Theology at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, TX.  

Bill returns to defend his latest Book "The End of Christianity" -an argument defending the Christian God against the argument of Evil.

How can natural evil and death that have existed for millions of years on an Old Earth view be reconciled to the view that the Fall brought these things into God's good world?  Why does God answer some prayers and not others?  Does free will exist?

Just some of the questions tackled by Bill as he engages with Former Christian Norman Hansen.

For Dembski's blog see http://www.uncommondescent.com/

For his book " The End of Christianity" Click here

For Norman Hansen see http://www.nrhansen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

For more Christian/non Christian debates visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast  or via Itunes

If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy

Unbelievable? 10 Jan 2009 Bart Ehrman & Richard Swinburne - "God's Problem: does the Bible fail to answer the problem of suffering?"

Unbelievable? 19 Apr 2008 Philosophical problems with God - an Atheist and Christian philosopher debate

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Unbelievable? 2 Jan 2010 - Intelligent Design - William Dembski debates Lewis Wolpert - 02 January 2010

One of the world's leading Intelligent Design proponents joins Justin to explain why he believes biological life exhibits "specified complexity" that runs against Darwinian evolution.

William (Bill) Dembski is an American mathematician, theologian and professor of Theology at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, TX.  He debates the issue of ID with atheist Lewis Wolpert, Emeritus Professor of Biology at University College London.

For Bill Dembski see  http://www.designinference.com/ or his blog http://www.uncommondescent.com/

For Lewis Wolpert's Wikipedia profile see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Wolpert

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or Get the podcast or via Itunes

If you enjoyed this porgramme you may also enjoy:

Unbelievable? 18 Jul 2009 - Intelligent Design vs Evolution - Peter S Williams and Peter Hearty debate

Unbelievable? 30 Aug 2008 - Darwin vs Design - Dr. Tom Woodward & Peter Hearty

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Unbelievable? 26 Dec 2009 - Are the two Christmas accounts contradictory? - 26 December 2009

Matthew and Luke are the two Gospel writers that include narratives of the birth of Christ.  The traditional Nativity Story is an amalgamation of the two accounts. 

Critics claim the two stories do not match up.  Barrister Charles Foster wrote "The Christmas Mystery" to show that Matthew and Luke are different, but reliable accounts of Jesus' birth.  Atheist Robert Stovold believes that the stories are a blend of Pagan myth and later invention.

Evangelical scholar Anthony McRoy also joins in the conversation.

They debate issues such as Matthew's use of Old Testament prophecy, the Virgin birth, Bethlehem as the birth place and whether Luke dates the Census correctly.

For Charles Foster see www.charlesfoster.co.uk 

To buy "The Christmas Mystery" click here

For Robert Stovold and his booklet "Did Christians Steal Christmas?" click here

Hear more Christian/non Christian discussion at www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast or via Itunes

If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy

Unbelievable? 22 Dec 2007 - Did Christians steal Christmas?

Unbelievable? 20 Dec 2008 Virgin Birth: Fact or Fiction? Revd Michael Sayward debates Unitarian Sarah Tinker

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Unbelievable? 19 Dec 2009 - What does science tell us about God? - 19 December 2009

Professor Lewis Wolpert is Emeritus Professor of Biology at University College London.  Professor Russell Cowburn is Chair of Nanotechnology at Imperial College.

Wolpert is an atheist, Cowburn a Christian.

Following on from a debate at Gunnersbury Baptist Church, the two scientists tackle the question "does science tell us anything about God?"  Wolpert believes it does - that belief in God is a product of evolution.  Cowburn believes that both science and scripture witness to a God who reveals himself to us.

Their conversation ranges over evolution, the new atheism and whether God should reveal himself through the miraculous.

To hear their original debate from November 2009 visit http://www.gunnersburybaptistchurch.org/events/opentoquestion/

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast or via Itunes

If you enjoyed this discussion you may also enjoy

Unbelievable? 21 Jun 2008 - Keith Ward on "The Big Questions in Science and Religion": Why Christians CAN believe in evolution

Unbelievable? 21 Feb 2009 - DNA & the origin of life - the cosmic fingerprints of God? Perry Marshall and Peter Hearty debate.

Join in the discussion at the "Unbelievable?" group of the Premier Community

Unbelievable? 12 Dec 2009 - Dawkins Debate on Atheist fundemantalism - 12 December 2009

Atheists Richard Dawkins, and AC Grayling recently squared up against Christians Richard Harries and Charles Moore for a debate on the motion "Atheism is the new fundamentalism".

Justin Brierley reviews the debate with audio clips from the speakers and Q&A session, as well as interviews with those who attended, including AC Grayling and the Chair of the debate Anthony Seldon.

For the full debate visit http://www.intelligencesquared.com/

For more Christian/non-Christian debate visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast or Via Itunes

If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy

Unbelievable? 8 Nov 2008 Dawkins & John Lennox's Oxford debate - a review with interviews and comment.

Unbelievable? 19 Jul 2008 Masters of Apologetics Pt 2: William Lane Craig

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Unbelievable? 5 Dec 2009 - Dan Barker on losing faith - 05 December 2009

Dan Barker was a Christian evangelist and musician for 19 years before he lost his faith.  He tells the story in his book "Godless: How an evangelical preacher became one of America's leading Atheists".  Dan is now President of the Freedom from Religion Foundation in the USA.

Charles Foster is a writer, barrister and traveller.  A committed Christian he has written books defending the Christian faith including "The Jesus Inquest: the case for and against the resurrection".  He says that, unlike Dan, when doubt came knocking he found the Bible to be trustworthy and the Christian story to be fulfilling. 

They discuss Dan's deconversion, the case for the resurrection, and whether we are better off free from religion.

For Dan Barker see http://ffrf.org/about/bio_dan.php

For his Book "Godless" click here

For Charles Foster see http://www.charlesfoster.co.uk/

For his book "The Jesus Inquest" click here

For more Christian/non-Christian discussion visit www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable or get the podcast or via Itunes

If you enjoyed this programme you may also enjoy:

Unbelievable? 8 Mar 2008 Can we trust the Gospels?

Unbelievable? 26 Apr 2008 Proof for the Resurrection - Evangelist Tony Costa & Atheist Ken Humphreys debate

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Yvonne 2 Comment by Yvonne 2 on February 1, 2010 at 9:37pm
New Programme - The Bible, A History; Channel 4 Sunday evenings

Happen to catch a new programme in its 1st series, it was the 2nd progamme of the series, this one was on Abraham. Found it really interesting and got to see Jerusalem. Would recommend it.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-bible-a-history

There is an i pod, where you can catch up on missed programmes, not sure how long they will be on there for.

have just seen the 1st programme on i pod. On creation, the narrator talks to Jews, Christians and Atheists.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-bible-a-history/4od
I think they are really good. Yvonne
Flameboi Comment by Flameboi on January 5, 2010 at 9:11am
Yvonne 2 Comment by Yvonne 2 on December 26, 2009 at 3:17pm

Available until: 12:29pm Friday 1st January 2010 see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00g7t8v/Star_of_Bethlehem/

In one of the most magical stories ever told, a bright star led the wise men from the east to the new Messiah. Now scientists are looking back into the skies of the ancient world to find out if the magi could have witnessed a real astronomical event.

Could the star of Bethlehem have been a comet, an alignment of planets or even a supernova? Who were the wise men, and why were they watching the night skies? Could evidence from a clay tablet from Babylon, an ancient manuscript from China, a fresco in the Catacombs of Rome and biblical texts help to finally unravel the greatest astronomical story in history?

(R) Broadcast on:BBC Two, 11:30am Friday 25th December 2009First broadcast:Wednesday 24th December 2008 Duration: 60 minutes

I would really recommend this.
Dan Carollo Comment by Dan Carollo on December 19, 2009 at 6:52pm
Counterbalance.org

Counterbalance Interactive Library, offering new views on complex issues from science, ethics, philosophy, and religion. Here you'll find extensive resources on the evolution/creation controversy, biomedical ethical challenges, and much more.

Featured Topics: Unscientific America: How science illiteracy threatens our future, Angels and Demons: Science and Religion on the Big Screen, and The Expelled Controversy: Overcoming or Raising Walls of Division?

http://www.counterbalance.org


Dan Carollo Comment by Dan Carollo on December 14, 2009 at 10:13pm
Closer To the Truth TV series online....

Closer To Truth is the definitive series on Cosmos, Consciousness and God, a global journey in search of the vital ideas of existence. It is the most complete, compelling, and accessible series on Cosmos, Consciousness and God ever produced for television.

Closer To Truth explores fundamental issues of universe, brain/mind, religion, meaning and purpose through intimate, candid conversations with leading scientists, philosophers, scholars, theologians and creative thinkers of all kinds. The shows are a rich visual experience, shot entirely on location in high definition with multiple cameras generating rich production values. The visual lushness of the high definition, on-location productions, combined with the intriguing titles of the shows, builds audiences already interested in mankind's greatest questions.
Yvonne 2 Comment by Yvonne 2 on December 5, 2009 at 12:14pm
Heres one for Christmas, hope you all have a good one.

Yvonne 2 Comment by Yvonne 2 on December 5, 2009 at 11:56am

For you evolutionists this is what you might look like in a few decades, due to the eviromental factors of the 21st centuary, namely polution!
GARFIELD (da kats wiskers] Comment by GARFIELD (da kats wiskers] on December 5, 2009 at 11:00am
I DONT BELIEVE THAT NEITHER
Yvonne 2 Comment by Yvonne 2 on December 5, 2009 at 10:41am
I am one of them who doesn't believe that. I think you will find there are a lot who don't agree with that ' theory '.
Michael Comment by Michael on December 5, 2009 at 10:34am
Yvonne

Please note that most Christians accept that we are evolved from other life forms. We are created but not a sererate creation
 

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