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Last night at the group I go to, we discussing the way we see Jesus, and were given a long list of which we have to chose six terms which we think best described Him.

 

I found the task extremely difficult, as there was so many that I just couldn't leave out!  Redeemer, Creator, Saviour, Christ, Truth, Son of Man, Son of God, Refuge, Rock, Healer, Lord, King, Priest, Prophet and lots more. I mean, how do you leave even one of those out?

 

So I decided to omit the couple that I didn't agree with -  'manipulator' and 'rebel'.

 

 

We discussed Jesus being a rebel, as the view was he rebelled against the Pharisees. Where I would say that it was the Pharisees that were in rebellion, rather than Christ.

Maybe I am/was being a little pedantic about the term 'rebel' and what it means. I can see Him as revolutionary, but not a rebel, not rebellious. Perhaps it is because I see rebellion as a sin.  

 

Do you see Jesus as Rebel? 

 

Does anyone else think that rebellion is a sin?

 

Love to hear your thoughts. 

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I suppose the best I could posit is that he was a rebel in terms of the world and it's standards and modus operandi etc.

Well the Master wasn't named Jesus as that was a spiritual title of office and not His personal earthly name.

Certainly He was no rebel.  He may have been seen so in the eyes of the Jewish priesthood, but He was a teacher, a Shepherd of Souls and Redeemer for God.

Remember, God is the Redeemer and the Master was the vehicle God used to accomplish that mission.

With what stripes the Master was struck with, so was God because it is God that travails through His Servants.

God is not apart from any suffering in His loved ones.

Yes, I would agree, however, does that not then make Him, a revolutionary rather than a rebel?

Or I'm am being too pendantic, as normal :)   

.....is to look through the wrong end of the looking glass

 

Yes agreed. This is of course to view thru the theological grist - which is accurate - however, from an unregenerate human perspective, Jesus was a rebel in informing us that God is topsy turvey to the world, or of course - more accurately - visa versa.

 

I note however, he paid his dues to the authorities at every turn.

It makes me smile, but then of course, he propogated the view that human authorites were in place with the implicit allowance and forebearance of the Father.
What I'm trying to say is that Jesus is a zeitgeist rebel.

Semantics rather than pendantics but that's OK.

 

You're viewing these terms as pejorative, which they would be if applied to man, but not for God.

MASSIVE Yawn!

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f you remember, his parents went to register for the census and He was born there in Bethlehem.  His parents (earthly) were good citizens.

His teaching were revolutionary but not rebellious.  He was brought into the world to go to the cross and submitted Himself to that death.  He was innocent but they wanted to get rid of him because He saw through their religious hypocrisy.  Matthew 23:2,3 "saying, "The scribes and pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; therefore all that they tell you do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds, for they say things and do not do them."

 

 

 

 

 

 

The kingdom of God is not of this world.

 

Three guesses who said that.

Ooo - good one Fergus. Bet you were up all night crafting that one.

 

Nice to see diligence, hard work, and sheer intellect counting for something here.

 

Now what you really need is to make a tooth fairy joke.

 

That'll show em.

eeerrrr.....the tooth fairy?

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